Vital Football

Latest Wigan Atletic News

Time For Joyce To Go - Wigan Athletic

Time For Joyce To Go - Wigan Athletic




When Warren Joyce was appointed to replace Gary Caldwell as Wigan Athletic manager on the 2nd November there were some raised eyebrows amongst quite a few Latics supporters, we were sitting in the deep-end of the Championship and to all and sundry the obvious choice would have been an experienced manager to come in and steady the ship.

For some reason we opted for a left field choice, a 52 year old who had never managed in the Championship, indeed his last and only job in management in England was at then bottom tier Hull City back in 1998.

He lasted just 17 months in charge of the Tigers before getting the boot following a mediocre season, Hull were the 4th lowest scorers in the division at the time but only three sides had conceded less.

Joyce worked with the reserves/Development Squad at Manchester United from 2008 up to his appointment at the Latics in 2016, eight years working as a coach with players hand-picked for him from around the world for being the best in their age group, coaching in a league with no relegation and virtually non-contact, more or less a completely no pressure role. Just how he was considered the ideal choice for the rough and tumble of the Championship is way beyond my comprehension.

Joyce's first game in charge against Reading on Bon Fire Day saw us two goals down inside the first five minutes, the set up of the team that day was strange, we had David Perkins on the right wing, but in fairness it would be harsh to put that defeat down to Joyce but the following nine games demonstrated, to me at least, that we had a manager/coach that was left scratching his head with the standard of play in the Championship.

Five points came from the available 27, a draw at Barnsley where we could easily have lost by three, a win at Huddersfield when they were denied two blatant penalties and missed a host of chances, plus a plucky draw at Derby, we were fortunate not to have been whitewashed on that run.

The return of Sam Morsy from Barnsley in January gave the club a lift, the Egypt international was the focal point of the side as we put in two of our best performances of the season against Burton and Brentford, winning both, scoring goals and playing with a high pressing game, but that lasted just two games.

The run since has been shocking, 9 points from 30 available, losing to relegation rivals and scoring just twice in our last six games, set up with no width, the full backs quite clearly under instruction not to get forward, hitting long hopeful balls into the channels for whoever is up top to chase, but given no support, we have no movement in and around the opposition box, defensively we are sound, well drilled, compact with seven players forming a defensive block, but football is played at both ends of the pitch and we looked devoid of ideas or men going forward.

Warren Joyce appears to be tactically inept, he sets us up not to lose when we need to win, when we go a goal down there is no coming back, he is incapable of seeing a different way forward, we are playing the dour football of a bygone era, his record at Hull perhaps is a reflection of the type of game he wants us to play, most definitely not the Wigan Athletic way.

With Joyce's constant reflections on his time at Manchester United during press conferences perhaps he is regretting the decision to leave the sanctuary of Old Trafford, also his remarks regarding players' fitness issues are both tiresome and quite disrespectful to their previous clubs, themselves as professional athletes and dare I say a deflection of the wider issue of Joyce himself being completely out of his depth managing a professional football club of the standing of Wigan Athletic.

Warren Joyce will, if left in charge, without any shadow of doubt take Wigan Athletic into League 1, if he is still at the helm next season then that will hit significantly the number of supporters willing to hand over their hard earned wonga to watch dull as dish water football, for that is all he is capable of producing, with this scared to venture forward brand of playing we will struggle to keep our heads above water in League 1 irrespective of who is in the squad, so for the good of the football club Joyce simply has to go, he should never have been appointed, that was plain as day back in October when Caldwell got the sack, Joyce was not the man, he's never shown any inclination in the following five months that he could be the man, in fact he has taken us backwards in both style and substance.

The last four games against Nottingham Forest, Blackburn, Birmingham and Bristol City have summed Joyce's tenure up at the club, just one goal scored, the fans shaking their heads at the standard of football on offer.

No more please, it's time for Joyce to go!

Check out the latest PWU Podcast - Let's Put The Soul Back In The Club

Warren Joyce's tenure as Latics manager finally ended, now's the time to get the soul back.


Massive game on Saturday against Aston Villa, let's get it won and see where it takes us.

Cheesy ending this week but who cares.

The podcast can be listened to by clicking the embedded player below or downloaded to listen at you leisure by visiting www.buzzsprout.com

We are also available on itunes and we have an app for your tablet or mobile, just follow the instructions here









Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

Writer:Barry Worthington
Date:Sunday March 12 2017
Time: 3:51PM

Comments

2
Hear,hear an operation on the other eye and when he sees the crap he is responsible for he won't believe what we are made to put up with week in week out, come on Sharpy show some leadership and start preparations for next season
Roy Naylor1
12/03/2017 16:54:00
2
I thought I'd give him time and was critical of those I felt were too quick to judge. They were right, I was wrong. The standard of football and approach to games is horrific, he needs to go now.
Whittleblue
12/03/2017 17:28:00
1
100% Spot on Barry.
GrimReaper87
12/03/2017 21:16:00
1
Hate to call it but I said this on our first WIN under Joyce and was slated for it....and to suggest people wouldn't pay to watch such ***** was unthinkable. I wished I want right but he's got to go
bluplu
12/03/2017 23:28:00
Page 1/1
  1. 1

Login to post a comment

Recent Wigan Athletic Articles

Whose Your Clubs' Lucky Scoring Omen?

Some clubs in the Premier League just seem to have a player with lady luck on their side and when they score in a game, that match always returns at least a point.

12th Man - Stability Brings Success

Despite a two goal reversal I left the DW Stadium on Saturday feeling a bit more positive than usual and a lot more entertained.

The Tea Lady - It's Time To Go - Wigan Athletic

Since she came in we've suffered 12 relegations and wasted £800m parachute payments on dross. I've met her once and she's very nice but we can't be sentimental about these decisions.

PWU Latics Podcast - Villa And FAB Report

This week we take a look back at the Villa game, life without Joyce feels so much brighter

Archived Vital Latics Articles

Vital Latics articles from

Site Journalists

Barry Worthington
Editor email
Profile
Dan Farrimond (JWAW)
no email
Profile
Adam Convery
no email
Profile
Frank Ford
no email
Profile
Noel Wards Leg
no email
Profile

Current Poll (see more polls)

Big Game Winners?
Suggested By: Warren Joyce
Latics36%
Aston Villa44%
Draw20%
ScoopDragon Publishing Entire League Network of Sites

League Table

# Team P W D L Pts. GD
1 Newcastle 38 24 6 8 78 38
2 Brighton 38 23 8 7 77 30
3 Huddersfield 37 22 5 10 71 4
4 Leeds Utd 38 21 6 11 69 16
5 Reading 38 20 7 11 67 2
6 Sheff Wed 38 18 8 12 62 9
7 Fulham 38 16 13 9 61 19
8 Norwich 38 16 9 13 57 9
9 Preston 38 15 12 11 57 6
10 Derby County 38 14 11 13 53 3
11 Barnsley 38 14 9 15 51 0
12 Aston Villa 38 13 12 13 51 0
13 Cardiff 38 14 9 15 51 -1
14 Brentford 38 14 8 16 50 3
15 Q.P.R. 38 14 8 16 50 -5
16 Wolves 37 12 9 16 45 -2
17 Ipswich 38 10 15 13 45 -9
18 Birmingham 38 11 12 15 45 -16
19 Bristol City 38 11 8 19 41 -3
20 Forest 38 11 8 19 41 -11
21 Burton 38 10 11 17 41 -14
22 Blackburn 38 9 13 16 40 -11
23 Wigan 38 8 10 20 34 -13
24 Rotherham 38 4 5 29 17 -54
The Vital Football Members League
Latest F1 News
Latest Vital Boxing News
Vital Football Comment

Recent Wigan Athletic Results (view all)

Wigan Athletic Fixtures (view all)

Apr 1 2017 3:00PM : Newcastle United (a)
Sky Bet Championship
Apr 4 2017 7:45PM : Ipswich Town (a)
Sky Bet Championship
Apr 8 2017 3:00PM : Rotherham United (H)
Sky Bet Championship
Apr 13 2017 7:45PM : Barnsley (H)
Sky Bet Championship
Apr 17 2017 3:00PM : Brighton & Hove Albion (a)
Sky Bet Championship
Apr 22 2017 3:00PM : Cardiff City (H)
Sky Bet Championship

Vital Members League Table

RankNamePoints
1.Get a Grip!281
2.Moonay265
3.Whittleblue264
4.king_dezeeuw06226
5.truelatic4eva185
6.hindleymonwafc171
7.Martinez1986168
8.nottinghamlatic142
9.Barry W132
10.WN5122
Write for Vital Football